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StuRowson  |  Nov 22 2007, 10:58 AM |
 Group: Contributor Posts: Joined: Tue May 1 2007 Status: Offline | I don't care what it takes, the FA have to get Jose Mourinho in as the new England manager after sacking Steve McClaren. While the former City player was never right for the job, and was clearly never the number one choice, Mourinho has everything we need to finally retsore some pride in English football. Luiz Felipe Scolari would be a good shout, and if Mourinho doesn't want it, I'd take Big Phil or Martin O'Neill tomorrow. But for me, the Special One has to the Only One for England. And what about Hutch Maiava? Hull FC have sacked him and brought in Peter Cusack. And then there's the little matter of the Humber derby on the City horizon. Plenty to talk about, but I'm still ranting and raving about that inept performance last night. Feel free to vent your spleen... |
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| MR_HUTCHIE | Nov 22 2007, 11:12 AM |
 Group: Member Posts: Joined: Thu May 10 2007 Status: Offline | Never mind sacking the manager, sack the overpaid and overated *******s who wore the white shirts last night. Until beckham came onto the field they looked completly clueless and even second half they werent too bright. Maiava out and Cusack in is a good move for Hull, had a feeling we might not see my namesake in a Hull shirt again |
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| Charlie_Mullan | Nov 22 2007, 11:14 AM |
 Group: Contributor Posts: Joined: Mon May 14 2007 Status: Offline Last Edit: 22 Nov 2007, 11:17 | For me, I'd go for Martin O'Neill. He gets the best out of average players and I think he will be able to get Gerrard, Lampard and co to play together as a team. For God say he got the best out of Stan Collymore!!! What has he achieved? He managed to get a Scottish club to the UEFA Cup final which is unheard of for a Scottish club. And he has more charisma in his little finger than McClaren has in total. Mourinho wouldn't be a bad choice either, though! What was McClaren thinking throwing Scott Carson into the deep end like that? I'd have gone for Robinson who I admit has made mistakes before - every keeper has. But Robinson has recovered after those mistakes in those games. Carson was like a rabbit caught in the headlights after his howler because it was his competitive debut!!! |
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| MR_HUTCHIE | Nov 22 2007, 11:14 AM |
Group: Member Posts: Joined: Thu May 10 2007 Status: Offline | As for new england manager, sod bringing another foreigner in, give the job to someone with passion for the country Stuart Pearce perhaps |
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| StuRowson | Nov 22 2007, 11:16 AM |
Group: Contributor Posts: Joined: Tue May 1 2007 Status: Offline | Hutchie, for once we agree!!!!!! Believe it or not, I thought Sven did a good job for England. The people who have consistently let England down are the players. Apparently we have a host of world class players in Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney etc. Sadly, none of them seem capable of proving it. Whether England played 4-5-1, 4-3-3, or 5-5-0 last night, that team should still have been capable of a result. Throwing it away once and going 2-0 down was a disaster. Scraping it back to 2-2 and then to collapse again, was tantamount to treason. No passion and no pride. |
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| StuRowson | Nov 22 2007, 11:19 AM |
Group: Contributor Posts: Joined: Tue May 1 2007 Status: Offline | Quote: MR_HUTCHIE at Nov 22 2007, 12:14 PM wrote As for new england manager, sod bringing another foreigner in, give the job to someone with passion for the country Stuart Pearce perhaps Nationality shouldn't matter - and let's face it there isn't an English manager capable of the job. Capello would be interested. O'Neill would do a fine job. But Mourinho is the one to help that overpaid bunch of footballers realise their potential. Bringing him in though, would be a very brave move by a Football Association hardly known for their ability to go for a character (Remember Brian Clough?) |
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| Cartman | Nov 22 2007, 11:20 AM |
 Group: Member Posts: Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007 Status: Offline | Quote: MR_HUTCHIE at Nov 22 2007, 12:14 PM wrote As for new england manager, sod bringing another foreigner in, give the job to someone with passion for the country Stuart Pearce perhaps STUART PEARCE? You're havin a laugh Hutchie!!! |
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| boris74 | Nov 22 2007, 11:22 AM |
 Group: Member Posts: Joined: Tue Nov 20 2007 Status: Offline | think Alan Shearer will be part of the setup as well, maybe not the manager. Got the respect of all the prima donnas and will bring a bit of passion to the shirt |
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| MR_HUTCHIE | Nov 22 2007, 11:25 AM |
Group: Member Posts: Joined: Thu May 10 2007 Status: Offline | Ive lost touch of footy over the last few years but Rooney always seems to be a psiionate player and chases his socks off. Lampard & Gerrard in the centre will never work for me, play either one with a defensive midfielder(cant even pick a name off top of my head) Wright Phillips is a warm weather player and Cole is very similar, last night wasnt the night for flair players Who the hell is L'escargot first time ive ever seen him play Cant put too much blame on the keeper, he had no protection. As soon as id seen the conditions i said to our lass that they should be pinging shots from 30 yards to bounce on the 6 yard box and bugger me, thats what they did , were as all first half we were clueless |
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| Cartman | Nov 22 2007, 11:27 AM |
Group: Member Posts: Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007 Status: Offline Last Edit: 22 Nov 2007, 11:31 | Quote: MR_HUTCHIE at Nov 22 2007, 12:25 PM wrote Ive lost touch of footy over the last few years but Rooney always seems to be a psiionate player and chases his socks off. Lampard & Gerrard in the centre will never work for me, play either one with a defensive midfielder(cant even pick a name off top of my head) Wright Phillips is a warm weather player and Cole is very similar, last night wasnt the night for flair players Who the hell is L'escargot first time ive ever seen him play Cant put too much blame on the keeper, he had no protection. As soon as id seen the conditions i said to our lass that they should be pinging shots from 30 yards to bounce on the 6 yard box and bugger me, thats what they did , were as all first half we were clueless Hutchie, you should stick to rugby league! |
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| StuRowson | Nov 22 2007, 11:27 AM |
Group: Contributor Posts: Joined: Tue May 1 2007 Status: Offline | Whoa there lads. We don't want ex-players in just because they can rile people up. We want a proven manager with tactical nouse who is PROVEN at getting the best out of players and winning things. Super Alan Shearer is best off where he is, in the BBC Studio. Jose Mou-rin-ho, Jose Mou-rin-ho, Jose Mou-rin-ho |
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| StuRowson | Nov 22 2007, 11:28 AM |
Group: Contributor Posts: Joined: Tue May 1 2007 Status: Offline | Quote: MR_HUTCHIE at Nov 22 2007, 12:25 PM wrote Ive lost touch of footy over the last few years but Rooney always seems to be a psiionate player and chases his socks off. Lampard & Gerrard in the centre will never work for me, play either one with a defensive midfielder(cant even pick a name off top of my head) Wright Phillips is a warm weather player and Cole is very similar, last night wasnt the night for flair players Who the hell is L'escargot first time ive ever seen him play Cant put too much blame on the keeper, he had no protection. As soon as id seen the conditions i said to our lass that they should be pinging shots from 30 yards to bounce on the 6 yard box and bugger me, thats what they did , were as all first half we were clueless On the Gerrard/Lampard debate, you wouldn't play two goalkeepers would you? Nuff said. |
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| MR_HUTCHIE | Nov 22 2007, 11:29 AM |
Group: Member Posts: Joined: Thu May 10 2007 Status: Offline Last Edit: 22 Nov 2007, 11:33 | Pearce, Shearer, Terry Butcher, Tony Adams, all heart on there sleeve players Our obsession with foreign managers and foreign players is becoming the downfall of our national game Maybe we should try some flag of convenience players like GB did in rugby with Fassa-Baloo   |
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| Miss_Ann_Thrope | Nov 22 2007, 11:30 AM |
 Group: Member Posts: Joined: Tue Aug 14 2007 Status: Offline | Quote: MR_HUTCHIE at Nov 22 2007, 12:14 PM wrote As for new england manager, sod bringing another foreigner in, give the job to someone with passion for the country Stuart Pearce perhaps A rugby league fan advocating the desirability of English coaches is somewhat amusing. As for Pearce, few people were more patriotic and passionate about their country than Keegan and he was hardly successful. |
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| MR_HUTCHIE | Nov 22 2007, 11:31 AM |
Group: Member Posts: Joined: Thu May 10 2007 Status: Offline | Quote: StuRowson at Nov 22 2007, 12:28 PM wrote On the Gerrard/Lampard debate, you wouldn't play two goalkeepers would you? Nuff said. it wouldnt be that bad an idea Simple answer is we always pick the supposed ' best ' players rather than the best TEAM |
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| MR_HUTCHIE | Nov 22 2007, 11:32 AM |
Group: Member Posts: Joined: Thu May 10 2007 Status: Offline | Quote: Miss_Ann_Thrope at Nov 22 2007, 12:30 PM wrote A rugby league fan advocating the desirability of English coaches is somewhat amusing. and you know my views on that do you  |
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| boris74 | Nov 22 2007, 11:34 AM |
Group: Member Posts: Joined: Tue Nov 20 2007 Status: Offline | Quote: StuRowson at Nov 22 2007, 12:27 PM wrote Whoa there lads. We don't want ex-players in just because they can rile people up. We want a proven manager with tactical nouse who is PROVEN at getting the best out of players and winning things. Super Alan Shearer is best off where he is, in the BBC Studio. Jose Mou-rin-ho, Jose Mou-rin-ho, Jose Mou-rin-ho Ex players sometimes works you know! Bilic - croatia Klinnsman - germany Van Basten - Holland How about a Mourinho/Shearer partnership then? All the tactical nouse and pride in the shirt working together. |
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| StuRowson | Nov 22 2007, 11:34 AM |
Group: Contributor Posts: Joined: Tue May 1 2007 Status: Offline | Great players dfon't make great managers. Kevin Keegan = not up to it Bryan Robson = never done it Stuart Pearce = too early to tell Tony Adams = hardly set Wycombe alight Terry Butcher = is he still in the back of beyond in Australia Just get the best man for the job, whether he's black, white, blue, tall, short, English or from Nepal. Just get the best man, and don't let pride or a fear of a character get in the way. |
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| MR_HUTCHIE | Nov 22 2007, 11:37 AM |
Group: Member Posts: Joined: Thu May 10 2007 Status: Offline | the one foreigner i would like to see in the job would be Alex Ferguson |
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| StuRowson | Nov 22 2007, 11:42 AM |
Group: Contributor Posts: Joined: Tue May 1 2007 Status: Offline | Ferguson? Pah! Given that David Gill (MUFC chief exec) is on the FA board, I can't see it happening. My biggest fear, is that they won't have the guts to bring in a "no-man" rather than the "yes-man" they normaly go for. Alan Mullery made a great point on Sky this morning thouhg, and I remember having a chat with Trevor Brooking about this before, but technuically we're not good enough in this country. That said, the 11 players who started that game last night should still have got a result. Where was the English blood and thunder spirit. Where was the closing down, the midfielders going through people and rattling the opposition to get England abck in the bloody game. We needed a Bryan Robson, a Keano, damn it a bloody leader who would rant and rave at his team-mates and get the adrenalin pumping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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